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Batwing to the rescue! Last Sunday's episode of Batwoman was seriously shocking and has put all the power into Black Mask's hands. He has Kate acting as his daughter, she has the Batsuit and seems to have corrupted it into her own bizarro backwards Batwoman suit. The False Face society also has all the tools that Batman had confiscated from Gotham's worst criminals and from the preview for this Sunday's season finale, it looks like he is making his own Bane! But, with all things looking to doom Gotham, we still have Luke's debut as Batwing to help save the day and in this new gallery of images from the season finale, it looks like Batwing is the hero we need!

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#23 RE: Power GalleryCatPat 2021-06-30 16:55
Quoting athena69:

I have to wonder if Dougray's leaving had anything to do with why they wrote Kate out of the show? Maybe the thought of Alice being the last Kane standing in Gotham had appeal? Surely, the excuse they come up with for his not returning is NOT because he stays in jail?!? And going walk-about to "find" himself after the Crows fiasco doesn't seem in character. But, who knows, maybe his snakebite binge had a more profound effect. Altho, you'd think at this point, he'd want nothing more than to help Alice recover. They could just do a quick and dirty - he dies (car accident?) while on the way back to Gotham...?


Basically, per Dries, with the Crows disbanded and Kate leaving, his role simply played out.

It wasn't a good send off. His fate was left hanging. I am not sure what he was charged with specifically... aiding and abetting Alice? I guess Mary will make some off-handed comment about it in S3 or something.

Unless an about face is done, I definitely will not be watching. No Kate, no thanks. Such a wasted opportunity and betrayal to fans.
#22 RE: Power Galleryathena69 2021-06-29 13:58
Quoting CatPat:
Quoting athena69:
Quoting CatPat:
It's almost here...

https://bleedingcool.com/tv/batwoman-preview-guess-who-bat-suited-up-for-season-2-finale/

Drat, I was hoping for a new spoiler. Or at least a photo we hadn't already seen. :-*
Speaking of photos, since the promo photo is specifically for this episode, I wonder if that means Jacob will be out of jail before the end of the episode?


It's a shame we didn't get resolution or better closure for Jacob as we now know he is exiting the cast. I wonder if he is open to a guest appearance? It would be cool if after his trial in Metropolis, provided charges aren't dropped, he returns to Gotham to hire Beth an attorney and psychiatrist/therapist to help her heal and eventually get out of Arkham and say his goodbyes. Then maybe he could head back to Metropolis or places unknown.

I have to wonder if Dougray's leaving had anything to do with why they wrote Kate out of the show? Maybe the thought of Alice being the last Kane standing in Gotham had appeal? Surely, the excuse they come up with for his not returning is NOT because he stays in jail?!? And going walk-about to "find" himself after the Crows fiasco doesn't seem in character. But, who knows, maybe his snakebite binge had a more profound effect. Altho, you'd think at this point, he'd want nothing more than to help Alice recover. They could just do a quick and dirty - he dies (car accident?) while on the way back to Gotham...?
#21 RE: Power GalleryCatPat 2021-06-28 10:46
Quoting athena69:
Quoting CatPat:
It's almost here...

https://bleedingcool.com/tv/batwoman-preview-guess-who-bat-suited-up-for-season-2-finale/

Drat, I was hoping for a new spoiler. Or at least a photo we hadn't already seen. :-*
Speaking of photos, since the promo photo is specifically for this episode, I wonder if that means Jacob will be out of jail before the end of the episode?


It's a shame we didn't get resolution or better closure for Jacob as we now know he is exiting the cast. I wonder if he is open to a guest appearance? It would be cool if after his trial in Metropolis, provided charges aren't dropped, he returns to Gotham to hire Beth an attorney and psychiatrist/therapist to help her heal and eventually get out of Arkham and say his goodbyes. Then maybe he could head back to Metropolis or places unknown.
#20 RE: Power Galleryathena69 2021-06-27 07:16
Quoting CatPat:
It's almost here...

https://bleedingcool.com/tv/batwoman-preview-guess-who-bat-suited-up-for-season-2-finale/

Drat, I was hoping for a new spoiler. Or at least a photo we hadn't already seen. :-*
Speaking of photos, since the promo photo is specifically for this episode, I wonder if that means Jacob will be out of jail before the end of the episode?
#19 RE: Power GalleryCatPat 2021-06-27 04:16
It's almost here...

https://bleedingcool.com/tv/batwoman-preview-guess-who-bat-suited-up-for-season-2-finale/
#18 RE: Power GallerySiggi 2021-06-26 14:43
Quoting CatPat:


Curious, are you on payroll?

Well, it has fallen below other shows it was ahead of last season... not just the new ones.
My statements were/are accurate, so arguing really doesn't change anything. Number are still lower than expected. Sorry they don't support your desired narrative.

My hope is season 3 is better.


No, I'm not on the payroll.
And again, season 2 isn't the first season that always has more viewers. Plus all the other factors.....I mentioned.

Whatever.... tomorrow we get the first real Season finale since the first had only that improvised one.
And yeah, I hope season 3 will be better as well....with the difference that I like season 2 very much (so far).
#17 RE: Power GalleryCatPat 2021-06-26 14:05
Quoting Siggi:
Quoting CatPat:

While I understand the streaming effect, Batwoman was CW's 3rd most watched show in viewers in season 1. It is now much lower amongst CW shows.


Well, among the shows that are now above Batwoman are a lot of new shows like Superman&Lois, Kung Fu, and Walker. Plus Batwoman was the big new show last season.
It's still above Black Lightning and Legends of Tomorrow (even running after LoT on Sundays they had slightly better numbers than that....show. Supergirl may end up above Batwoman this season even the average of Supergirl will most likely sink until the end of the season.
Will be interesting to see how the numbers will change in season 3. As the TV numbers are going down each year....it would already be a big success if the show could hold the current numbers.


Curious, are you on payroll?

Well, it has fallen below other shows it was ahead of last season... not just the new ones.
My statements were/are accurate, so arguing really doesn't change anything. Number are still lower than expected. Sorry they don't support your desired narrative.

My hope is season 3 is better.
#16 RE: Power GallerySiggi 2021-06-26 10:52
Quoting CatPat:

While I understand the streaming effect, Batwoman was CW's 3rd most watched show in viewers in season 1. It is now much lower amongst CW shows.


Well, among the shows that are now above Batwoman are a lot of new shows like Superman&Lois, Kung Fu, and Walker. Plus Batwoman was the big new show last season.
It's still above Black Lightning and Legends of Tomorrow (even running after LoT on Sundays they had slightly better numbers than that....show. Supergirl may end up above Batwoman this season even the average of Supergirl will most likely sink until the end of the season.
Will be interesting to see how the numbers will change in season 3. As the TV numbers are going down each year....it would already be a big success if the show could hold the current numbers.
#15 RE: Power GalleryCatPat 2021-06-26 07:04
Quoting athena69:

Huh... Hmm... Given Jason Todd's version as the anti-hero who murders criminals - I can certainly see that as a possibility for Circe-Kate. Circe wants revenge against all those who wronged her (sounds like someone else we know!), because she was unjustly incarcerated (her father probably had something to do with that, cuz given his influence, I doubt he would have let it happen if he didn't want it to). But Kate could have enough of an influence to nudge her in the direction of only targeting villains and not the entire System and everyone in it. And we already know that RED is an important color for Kate. Wouldn't THAT make an interesting team up Red Hood and Red Alice!!!



Kate & Beth: The Red Twins... I really like it!
+1 #14 RE: Power GalleryCatPat 2021-06-26 06:19
Quoting athena69:


I think they grossly underestimated the impact that Kate Kane has on the fans. Evidently, they also overestimated the draw that Ryan Wilder would pull in. I noticed NetFlix has the earlier seasons of the CW shows (mostly 2017 & earlier) available on DVD, but none of the recent seasons. Maybe they're relying more on per-episode streaming services like Amazon, cuz they make more money that way?!?

I'm keeping my fingers crossed that Caroline delivers on the finale. I could accept Circe as a "Red Hood" type of vigilante/anti-hero for S3, but I'll be really disappointed if we get Circe as a megalomaniacal nut job like her "father" Roman.


I totally agree. Kate Kane is not a disposable/replaceable character and just about every message board that covered Batwoman showed that the overwhelming majority supported the recast of Kate Kane over the replacement of the character. They just ignored fans on the matter. While I get Dries desire to make the transition to a new actress feel more organic and less soap opera trope, she made the handover of the batsuit to a new unknown character feel like her permanent solution and seemingly ignored why fans were fans in the first place. I think that was a mistake.

I also agree that Kate Kane cannot be reduced to a crazed maniac for the long term. I am good with a temporary arc of mayhem with a splash of depravity, but we don't need Alice 2.0, we need Kate back. In the interim, a Red Hood like arc could be really fun and entertaining. I like the prospects.

Netflix gets the CW shows approximately 30 days after their seasons conclude on the linear network/platform. Batwoman was not acquired by Netflix, as it went to HBO Max. Moving forward most new CW shows will likely stay in-house and go to either HBO Max, if produced by WB, or Paramount +, if produced by CBS. Neither appear to be generating Netflix level boosts yet, but may eventually.


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