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She baa-aaaack! WHOO-HOO! We now know that Kate is returning.
Alas, Caroline Dries, Batwoman showrunner, has made it clear the Ryan is cemented as Batwoman 2.0. So, where does that leave Kate?!?

First, I think Wallis is a PERFECT choice to play Kate. There's enough physical resemblance to make the switch believable.And any personality differences can be attributed to the brainwashing or PTSD from the accident and being held captive (just ask Alice!)

I think it's interesting that Kate is now going down a rather similar, albeit abbreviated, version of the life Beth experienced. I suspect this will play a huge part in Kate and Alice's future relationship.

With Enimga's brainwashing under Black Mask's direction, I think Kate will come out as a villain for the next few episodes, possibly thru the end of the season. I'd love to see her and Alice team up and wreak havok on Gotham! Given that this last episode spoke to Alice's deep-seated connection with Kate, I am hoping that it's Alice that brings Kate back from the dark abyss.

A lot will depend on whether Kate remembers that she's Kate, or if they (BM & Enigma) have given her a "new" (temporary) persona. On the one hand, why go to the trouble of convincing everyone Kate is dead, only to have her resurface. On the other hand, why kidnap Kate in the first place? Did BM know she was Batwoman? Does he want to use her as his enforcer? Does he want her connections/knowledge as a Gotham billionaire? Is she going to be the new GCPD Commissioner?

I'm predicting that by the end of the season, Kate will be (mostly) back to being Kate, she will give her blessing to Ryan to continue as Batwoman (only cuz Caroline has said it will be so),
and she will adopt a new superhero persona, and the Bat Team will be born. Maybe she'll be Flamebird, since she has risen from the ashes?!? Hopefully, Kate will take Ryan under her batwing and teach Ryan better fighting skills, cuz in the inevitable smackdown between Dark Kate and Batwoman 2.0, Kate's gonna mop the floor with Ryan.

So, before "Black Mask's (guest star Peter Outerbridge) plans for Kate Kane (Wallis Day) begin to unfold" in two weeks, what about the rest of you? Anyone have any expectations, predictions, or 'what if's' they want to share?
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Says the childish Ryan Wilder cultist fanatic blogger.

Again, really describing yourself here. You started the childish name calling after all or did you conveniently forget? If you did, feel free to scroll back and see for yourself.
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Says the Ryan Wilder cultist fanatic blogger.


Oh my....
Ok, everyone sees your childish (to say at least) answers here.
It's my last post in your direction as it would be a waste of time to go on .
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Says the Ryan Wilder cultist fanatic blogger.
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Says the Ryan Wilder cultist/fanatic. You are describing yourself.


:D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D
Seriously?
I like Kate Kane and I think Ruby did a solid job on her. (even her dropping out left a bitter taste)
I like Ryan Wilder and I think Javicia does a good job in playing her.
I LOVE the show itself.....but I am surely not on Ryan cultist.
:D :D :D :D :D

P.S.: Also interesting that you are not even denying being a Kate Kane cultist/fanatic.....
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What you seemingly don't get is that this show was built around Kate Kane and she was dumped... twice! You have to be a Kate Kane fan to understand her importance to true fans. You clearly are not one, as you rolled over very easily to the change. Again, you post your glowing reviews of mediocrity in forum and I don't make negative posts to them. Yet you criticize anyone that doesn't care for Ryan Wilder or Batwoman 2.0. To the main site, I will post my actual opinions of each episode and the direction the show is seemingly heading. I try to stay clear of yours. But, don't you worry as soon you may be the only one posting to this site. Currently only 4 people regularly post. Many left this site after season one... just like many (50%) stopped watching the show. By the Wayne, the finale was down to 400k, less than half of the season 1 finale. I know how you love my ratings updates..
You've insulted two of us on multiple occasions because we don't agree with your narrative. I don't like the Ryan Wilder show. It's dull and I won't be watching season 3 without Kate Kate. My opinion which I'm entitled to state.



You are not a Kate Kane fan....you are seemingly some sort of Kate Kane cultist.
For you: Everything that Kate does....pure gold.
If Ryan would save some kids from a burning home....you would still find a way to criticize her for doing it....just because she isn't that magic Kate.
I like Kate Kane, but in the first place, I'm a Batwoman fan. And if someone else as Kate is in the suit, I don't have such gigantic issues with it. Ryan did a good job in season 2 as a rather unusual heroine.
And I never insulted anyone here. The Kate Kane glasses comment isn't one. That was a rather mildly observation.
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What you seemingly don't get is that this show was built around Kate Kane and she was dumped... twice! You have to be a Kate Kane fan to understand her importance to true fans. You clearly are not one, as you rolled over very easily to the change. Again, you post your glowing reviews of mediocrity in forum and I don't make negative posts to them. Yet you criticize anyone that doesn't care for Ryan Wilder or Batwoman 2.0. To the main site, I will post my actual opinions of each episode and the direction the show is seemingly heading. I try to stay clear of yours. But, don't you worry as soon you may be the only one posting to this site. Currently only 4 people regularly post. Many left this site after season one... just like many (50%) stopped watching the show. By the Wayne, the finale was down to 400k, less than half of the season 1 finale. I know how you love my ratings updates..
You've insulted two of us on multiple occasions because we don't agree with your narrative. I don't like the Ryan Wilder show. It's dull and I won't be watching season 3 without Kate Kate. My opinion which I'm entitled to state.
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What you 2 seemingly both ignore is the possibility that Caroline has her own vision of the show and does what she thinks is right. How much others like Berlanti are involved in the masterplan....I can only guess.
It certainly would be much easier for her to "just" listen to what the majority of the fan base wants.
That would be the safe route.
Certainly, she doesn't shy away from unpopular decisions.
Will be interesting to see once the show is over....how much these decisions paid off....or not.
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I can't understand why she [Caroline Dries] would disrespect the Kate Kane fan base like this... for a second time... and why she's allowed to... terrible decisions have been made.

I've said it before, and I'll say it again, with NO racial bias intended - I think they decided that the BIPOC movement was more important than giving the fans what they wanted. But I also think they could have gone a route that honored both, instead of one or the other.
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I can't understand why she [Caroline Dries] would disrespect the Kate Kane fan base like this... for a second time... and why she's allowed to... terrible decisions have been made.
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It looks like I am no longer fan of Caroline Dries, she has stated, I would never say never because you never know, but for now, that was our farewell to Kate.

This is unforgivable.
Totally agree. I felt a chill stab thru my heart when I read that. :( :( :(
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It looks like I am no longer fan of Caroline Dries, she has stated, I would never say never because you never know, but for now, that was our farewell to Kate.

This is unforgivable.
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RE: Alice-Beth - I was thinking exactly the same thing. And it already seems to be happening - hard-nosed, straight-and-narrow Jacob showed support for Alice publicly! I think once Kate gets a majority of her personality back, more than anyone, she'll be first in line to give Alice a second chance, since she has first hand knowledge of what it's like to have a shattered psyche. All this is, of course, contingent upon Alice not screwing it up again.

And the only way any of this can play out is if they up Wallis to a regular cast member! ;)
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Yeah... I think Wallis can totally pull off the Alice twin aspect of Kate Kane. She's the whole KK deluxe package. I hope the PTB continue to allow her free reigns to fully develop her characterization of both Circe and eventually Kate.

I do think Team Bat will be forced --like it or not-- to reevaluate Alice after dealing with Circe-Kate. With the exception of Ryan, they all REALLY knew Kate Kane and know Circe is no Kate. If someone can turn Kate into a Circe, then Beth didn't stand a chance and she was victimized starting as a child. As Alice pointed out, you don't get this extra without a shove.
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More from the fabulous Wallis Day...

https://www.thewrap.com/batwoman-wallis-day-circe-warpath-saving-kate/
Ya know, I actually had the thought a couple of times that some crazed look or other she did in #217 were rather Alice-like. Wallis, it seems, is an excellent mimic!
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I am glad Willis seems so excited to play Kate Kane.

https://www.denofgeek.com/tv/batwoman-where-does-wallis-days-kate-kane-fit-in-gotham/
Nice read. I like that Rachel and Wallis are putting so much into their characters together. It sounds like Kate has a long journey ahead, so hopefully, that translates to: she'll be a regular part of the cast moving forward.
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I think Wallis is getting into her character!
https://www.instagram.com/p/COZPLAihrYD/


Yeah, saw those some days ago.
The last one where is playing with the knife with closed eyes....is somehow quite sexy for me :p :D
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I think Wallis is getting into her character!
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